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instead of going up to 39.6, which was the top rate that clinton set, it's down to 35 now. they move to 37, and republicans are a critical number of republicans in the house are able to say, well we didn't give if all the way. we got the best deal we could and held them to 37%. from the democrats' standpoint after fighting it for a decade, do you think it's good enough to get to 37%? >> normally that's where a compromise is. whenever you legislate numbers and tax rates are always just the legislation of numbers, the place to compromise actually is on what that number is. now, there are two numbers that the obama side, the democrats want to change. there are two top rates. the 33 and the 35. under the obama plan, the 33 would go to 36, the 35 would go to 39.6. you know, if you're trying to negotiate a compromise, you can start to play with each one of those numbers and try to find something. the huge problem for the republicans on doing that is they're opposed to any kind of tax increase on principle. so it's very hard for them to go into the negotiations that way and say, w
instead of going up to 39.6, which was the top rate that clinton set, it's down to 35 now. they move to 37, and republicans are a critical number of republicans in the house are able to say, well we didn't give if all the way. we got the best deal we could and held them to 37%. from the democrats' standpoint after fighting it for a decade, do you think it's good enough to get to 37%? >> normally that's where a compromise is. whenever you legislate numbers and tax rates are always just the...
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the president of the united states, bill clinton, said gee, they're actually serious. we negotiated the first four balanced budgets in your lifetime, the only four. we negotiated welfare reform. he vetoed it twice. we kept passing it. i'm not suggesting that we have to go to that level but they should be prepared to. if they don't have respect for themselves, if they're not prepared to use the tools of the house, the first of which is appropriations, then the republicans announce tomorrow morning the president doesn't want to negotiate, he's not going to have a domestic government on october 1st. >> why don't they just pass some bills? >> sean: i said the last time and i conceded to you and your vast experience. i said pass a bill and you said no. pass a series of bills, send them over to the senate and to the president and let them deal with it. >> and by the way, find a bunch of democratic billings that are pretty good. there's a warner bill on developing offshore oil and gas for virginia from two democratic senators. i can't figure out why the house republicans for
the president of the united states, bill clinton, said gee, they're actually serious. we negotiated the first four balanced budgets in your lifetime, the only four. we negotiated welfare reform. he vetoed it twice. we kept passing it. i'm not suggesting that we have to go to that level but they should be prepared to. if they don't have respect for themselves, if they're not prepared to use the tools of the house, the first of which is appropriations, then the republicans announce tomorrow...
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sure the clinton tax cuts are back in place for all people, not just the rich. but just imposing tax on the rich, you will have to concede, is part of his class warfare scheme and his desire to get even with the successful people. it's contrary to the american dream. it will not do anything to address our revenue issue and our debt issue. david, how can you support this? >> david, just a moment. you and sean both agree, and i want to join you in this, we need to do something about spending in this country, it's out of control. we need to limb the size of government. if you truly believe these things, then you say it's not just about imposing damage on the middle class, the poor who rely on social safety net programs. you have to say the rich have to have some skin in the game. >> hang on one second. >> and they do, they do. >> hang on, hang on. >> and it in terms of tax rates in this country. >> hold on. one sec. i want to ask juan a question. why won't the president negotiate all of this at the same time in because the president is saying give me what i want an
sure the clinton tax cuts are back in place for all people, not just the rich. but just imposing tax on the rich, you will have to concede, is part of his class warfare scheme and his desire to get even with the successful people. it's contrary to the american dream. it will not do anything to address our revenue issue and our debt issue. david, how can you support this? >> david, just a moment. you and sean both agree, and i want to join you in this, we need to do something about...
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bill clinton, you don't have to agree with bill clinton but if anybody knows the game of politics, the only way to get something done is shut the door, while the media shrieking that things are done in secret. let me tell you, the toughest part of leadership is be in a room for exhaustion period of time. and saying guys, will you shut up when you leigh here, because i think we are getting close. out the door they go an then suddenly there is a light from a television camera. and then two or three of those guys just like a giant moth just go over to it. what went on in there? well, i had to leig leave becaue they were falking about a tax increase. god bless him. the other guy said i had to leigh because they talk about doing something with precious entitlements. thank god you did. it's b.s. and vagary and tragic. >> bret: what do you think will happen? you know the deal here. you know what is going on. what do you think is going to happen? >> guest: i hope i don't see anything more like statement of leadership on both sides that say i think if we go over the fiscal cliff it will help th
bill clinton, you don't have to agree with bill clinton but if anybody knows the game of politics, the only way to get something done is shut the door, while the media shrieking that things are done in secret. let me tell you, the toughest part of leadership is be in a room for exhaustion period of time. and saying guys, will you shut up when you leigh here, because i think we are getting close. out the door they go an then suddenly there is a light from a television camera. and then two or...
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secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn, s.e.c. showed that directors received a base pay of $60,000 plus $1250 for every meeting they attended. romney has a long-time friendship with the members of marriott family and has served on the board off and on since 1993. >>> all right. time for the "news nation" gut check. bloomberg news is reporting that president obama is considering "vogue" anna wintor to be the next u.s. ambassador to the uk or france. she raised $500,000 for his re-election campaign. she's been at "vogue" for more than 25 years and they say she's very happy about the
secretary clinton said she was not interested. politico reports actress ashley judd is seriously considering a run for 2014 against mitch mcconnell in his home state of kentucky. mcconnell's office warned he will not go easy on whoever the democratic challenger is but did not reference judd specifically. mitt romney is going back to work at his own job. marriott international has announced romney rejoined the board of directors after resigning two years ago. as for how much romney will earn,...
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this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who does not believe in unicorns, pink or otherwise, mr. grover norquist. grover, what a day to have you on the show. thanks for joining us. >> absolutely. of course, you know, north korea and -- media announced they did find unicorns in north korea. >> we don't often take our cues from them. i am one that firmly believes in the existence of unicorns somewhere and hopefully maybe in this fiscal cliff deal. grover, the first question i have for you is this, your pledge, the pledge that many republicans have signed on to, opposes any and all efforts to increase marginal income tax rates and opposes any net re
this offer more bipartisan credibility, speaker boehner said the plan is based on a proposal by former clinton chief of staff erskine bowles. bowles said he was flattered by the use of his name but satsz the proposal, quote -- so far, this greek fiscal drama has yet failed to return. the larger question for america, the play ends in tragedy on december 31st. joining me now from washington, is the president for -- president of americans for tax reform, conservative counter broker and the man who...
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clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states in american history. >> there doesn't seem to be any democrats that could come close to hillary clinton or joe biden when it comes to running for president, but there's plenty of time. we're only three years and 11 months away from election day. let's turn to michael tomasky, correspondent for t"the daily beas beast". it's a lot of fun to talk about it, but it's amazing -- not that she doesn't deserve it. it's a quick endorsement on all fronts globally. how do you compete with that? >> it's awfully tough to compete with that. the spe
clinton in the six-minute clip. this video seems like an international endorsement of a presidential campaign ad all rolled into one. but the kind words didn't stop there. hillary clinton's boss recorded this special message for her. >> through it all, i have relied on the shining qualities that have defined your life. your conviction, your optimism, your belief that america can and must be a force for good in the world. i'll say it again. you've been one of the best secretary of states...
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. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the right to vote of any american on welfare. once they get off well taer and are self-sustaining they get their right restored. no american on welfare should have the right to vote for tax increases on those americans working and paying taxes to support them. >>> and "the daily show's" jon stewart says maybe we should go off the fiscal cliff. >> back and forth of offers. it's pretty clear the republicans aren't going to come to the table with anything reasonable. i'll be the one to say it, i know it will be disastrous and doom our economy for years to come, let's go over the [ bleep ] cliff. fine. just leave the negotiating
. >>> if the 2016 presidential election were held today, secretary of state hillary clinton would be a shoo-in. according to a new "washington post"/abc news poll 57% would support clinton to succeed president obama. 37% would not. ted nugent weighs in on the fiscal cliff fiasco something he said we drove off a long time ago. he writes in "the washington times" social security, medicaid and medicare spending needs to be slaughtered and let's stop the insanity of the...
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members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for more? >> well, they're certainly asking for more than president obama is asking, and that is the point here. they feel that the policies of the clinton era that gave us the prosperity that we saw back then would be good to impose now. they are really calling for a different kind of arrangement pushing for a simplification of the tax code that would include taxes on cigarettes and alcoholic beverages which would cross income lines, those kind of consumer taxes hit lower income tax people -- taxpayers as well as upper, and they want to get rid of the amt, that automatic tax that's designed to make sure that old
members of president clinton's economic team, people like bob rubin and larry podesta, have put their name to a plan that calls for $200 billion more in tax revenue than even the president is asking. for more now we have with us william cohen in new york, a columnist for the bloomberg view, and clarence page, a columnist for "the chicago tribune." welcome to both of you. clarence, one thing this makes plain is democrats are feeling confident in a fiscal cliff win. why not ask for...
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there is new speculation that hillary clinton will run for president in 2016. fueling the newest speculation you might ask? here appearance at the annual conference on middle east policy that took place in washington friday night. more than 10 minute video tribute. secretary clinton was praised by political rivals from senator onmccain and the president and by other world leaders. >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl you're amazing just the way you are ♪ >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> i prepared some remarks for tonight, but then i thought maybe we could just watch that video a few more times. and then the next time i could count the hairstyles, which is one of my favorite past times. >> joining me now is ken vogel. you heard bibi netanyahu say he has an instinct the best is yet to come. what would be better perhaps some say than seeing hillary clinton run for president? >> indeed. that's what a lot of her supporters want. they are actually l
there is new speculation that hillary clinton will run for president in 2016. fueling the newest speculation you might ask? here appearance at the annual conference on middle east policy that took place in washington friday night. more than 10 minute video tribute. secretary clinton was praised by political rivals from senator onmccain and the president and by other world leaders. >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i don't think we've heard the last of hillary...
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. >> well, defense of marriage act -- defense of marriage act was signed by president clinton in 1996, and it's a law that says the federal government, all as pecks of the federal government, including the internal revenue service will not recognize same-sex marriages even many states where same-sex marriage is legal and two appeals courts have held that that is unconstitutional, that it is unlawful discrimination. the obama administration agrees that this law is unconstitutional. it's now being defended by a lawyer hired by the house of representatives, and the case about is the defense of marriage act constitutional, that is one. there are several different cases raising that issue that the justices are probably going to decide whether to hear today. >> california's prop 8, what would that entail? >> propositional is a very different case because that's really a more fundamental case that potentially could apply in every state of the union. basically that question is does the constitution require that everyone, gay or straight, has the right to get married, and what makes the propos
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>> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i have just never seen anything like it. >> yes, indeed, it seems that republicans are not quite sure what to make of the president taking a harder line across the bargaining table. >> you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. the president's plan is just, quite frankly, a joke. >> i'm not sure about that, senator graham, but there will be plenty of time for jokes later this evening with every member of congress invited to the white house for what may be the most awk
>> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you...
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what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are agreeing to what is effectively a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something, and that 37% may be the golden median. >> doug, let's talk about the unemployment report that came out today. it shows 7.7% unemployment. you know, i know a lot of democrats want to say, oh, it's dropping, but it seems to me for months and months and months, the unemployment numbers have just remained awful. they move a little up and down, but they're just a mess. 12 million people unemployed. it seems to me that that could cut either way. republicans could still lean on that and say, you may be winning the pr war on this thing right now, but don't forget, you've got a big prob
what was so bad about the 39.6% highest rate under bill clinton? the economy was pretty good under bill clinton and that grumbling from democrats, i think, will be helpful to, ironically, republicans because a lot of republicans on the right are going to be saying to boehner, we had pledged to grover norquist no tax increase at all and here you are agreeing to what is effectively a tax increase. and i think that both sides are going to have to give a little bit of something, and that 37% may be...
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>> well, i think what is going on now, you know, if you look and you see secretary clinton is traveling to the middle east on monday. i think what the administration is scrambling to do now is to try and put together an international coalition, much as we saw them do with libya. talking to the arab league, talking to gulf allies, talking to nato, because, of course, we're better off if we don't have to act alone. if we have the support of the international community, you know, but, frankly, i think i probably fall down where senator mccain was at least implying, and that is we've waited awfully long and we've made it a far more difficult task by waiting until now to intervene there? what's at stake? this is not the first time that chemical weapons were used in the region. we all know and remember when saddam hussein used nerve gas on the kurds in iraq. explain what happens. >> well, it takes -- i think people really underestimate or don't appreciate sort of just how powerful these are. you know, back the group in japan used it on a train, and the train doors opened, and most everyone th
>> well, i think what is going on now, you know, if you look and you see secretary clinton is traveling to the middle east on monday. i think what the administration is scrambling to do now is to try and put together an international coalition, much as we saw them do with libya. talking to the arab league, talking to gulf allies, talking to nato, because, of course, we're better off if we don't have to act alone. if we have the support of the international community, you know, but,...
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there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area where they do agree. russia is very much opposed to any type of use of chemical weapons and in fact secretary clinton thanked him for speaking about that which she did in brussels just yesterday, talking about that. although, brooke, you know, you have to say that the russians next breath say that they have raised that issue, in fact, with bashar al assad. the president of syria. and he assures them that there's no use intended and it is not a problem and, so, you kind of have two messages coming from the russians but you would have to say they're very much opposed to that and a lot of concern. >> so do they then -- do the russians believe assad when he assures them that he won't? and, are there new sign that is the russians might be waivering in their support of assad? >> reporter: you know, it's thoohard to say whether they believe it. you have to say at least on the surface they're saying we are taking him at his word that he w
there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area where they do agree. russia is very much opposed to any type of use of chemical weapons and in fact secretary clinton thanked him for speaking about that which she did in brussels just yesterday, talking about that. although, brooke, you know, you have to say that the russians next breath say that they have raised that issue, in fact, with bashar al assad....
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. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it rais
. >> chris christie against hillary clinton would be -- >> it would be a barn burner. >> one is careful and professional. the other is a wild swinger, you don't know what he's going to do, overweight, the whole thing. wow, what an election. thank you, michael steele. happy weekend. joy reid, relax this weekend. >>> speaking of chris christie, he gets what he's wanting his whole life. this guy is a regular guy in some ways. that's ahead on "hardball," the...
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bush, bill clinton, and george w. bush along with other key staffers from obama's campaign. on thursday, longoria wrote on twitter she's so excited and honored to co-chair the event. of course, more celebrity names will start popping up as the big day draws even closer since this is a president that was widely supported in hollywood. you may also remember that back in 2009, jay-z, beyonce, aretha franklin were at the 2009 inauguration. it is going to be another star-studded event and short time from now, right around the corner. >> get your tickets now. get them now. they will be sold out whatever it is, plane, train, automobile, whatever. thank you, kareen wynter. >>> for the latest entertainment headlines makes you sure you watch "showbiz tonight." hol dawes are here. how are some businesses finding ways to keep jobs while others are failing? tom foreman went looking for some answers in today's american journey. >> reporter: amid the bustle of broadway against the bad economy and crushing competition at the strand the show goes on. started more than 80 years ago, this inde
bush, bill clinton, and george w. bush along with other key staffers from obama's campaign. on thursday, longoria wrote on twitter she's so excited and honored to co-chair the event. of course, more celebrity names will start popping up as the big day draws even closer since this is a president that was widely supported in hollywood. you may also remember that back in 2009, jay-z, beyonce, aretha franklin were at the 2009 inauguration. it is going to be another star-studded event and short time...
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president clinton did raise the marginal tax rates for the top bracket. well, the heritage foundation, the leading conservative think tank predicted doom and gloom along with those republicans you just saw saying it would create higher deficits. they were a recipe for recession. it would "destroy jobs" and undermine america's international competitiveness. obviously since republicans are geniuses that's what happened, right? wrong again. here's what happened in reality. we created 22.7 million jobs, 21% increase in wages. and by the way, they were a million% wrong on the deficit. it balanced the budget. not only balanced the budget, it gave us a $236 billion surplus. how do you like that for results? and that's what happened the last time we raised taxes on the upper bracket. so when they tell you the same old lies this time around, there is absolutely no reason to believe it. in fact, there is overwhelming evidence against it. so undeterred, they of course go on none the less. if you're not convinced let me give you more evidence. look at this chart that
president clinton did raise the marginal tax rates for the top bracket. well, the heritage foundation, the leading conservative think tank predicted doom and gloom along with those republicans you just saw saying it would create higher deficits. they were a recipe for recession. it would "destroy jobs" and undermine america's international competitiveness. obviously since republicans are geniuses that's what happened, right? wrong again. here's what happened in reality. we created...
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you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria indeed, which is saying it's not going to do, uses the weapons out of desperation, because here you have some rebel strongholds that is not bowing to the syrian regime, despite the fact that it is repeatedly conventionally bombed. when you reach a level where there is desperation for a regime that feels everything around it is crumbling, the question is what will it use in order to try in some desperate last ditch measure to protect itself. that is the concern. the u.s. has always said this is a concern because it is not just within the borders of syria, that it
you get to secretary of state hillary clinton warning the u.s. was prepared to act if syria used chemical weapons if they're using them, so then what -- run through possible scenarios for me? >> well, the u.s. always said its red line is the use of chemical weapons. and of course you can imagine that people at the state department and other agencies in washington are very much looking into whether or not syria is simply moving stockpiles around, or preparing for some sort of use. if syria...
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. >>> hillary clinton for new york city mayor. that's what outgoing mayor michael bloomberg wants. according to the "new york times," bloomberg reach ed out o the secretary of state and asked her to consider running next year but says hillary clinton declined. secretary said she will leave public service once her successor is in place. >>> one of the world's leading experts in fashion add the title of ambassador to her name? anna wintour, editor in chief of vogue magazine is one of several people president obama is considering for the ambassador post to the united kingdom or france. wintour is a u.s. citizen, but was born in the united kingdom. she is one of the president's biggest fund-raisers. >>> federal judge temporarily blocks federal law, banning the use of conversion therapy. his ruling applies to only three providers who want the law overturned. the therapy is aimed at helping change a minor sexual orientation from gay to straight. >>> 13 people dead, 32 wounded. now the judge in the case has been removed. u.s. court of appeals for the armed services says the judge showed b
. >>> hillary clinton for new york city mayor. that's what outgoing mayor michael bloomberg wants. according to the "new york times," bloomberg reach ed out o the secretary of state and asked her to consider running next year but says hillary clinton declined. secretary said she will leave public service once her successor is in place. >>> one of the world's leading experts in fashion add the title of ambassador to her name? anna wintour, editor in chief of vogue...
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they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some of his popularity and put out unpopular ideas for cuts. democrats don't have an incentive to do that. >> big news. stand by. my thanks. in need to pass along this breaking news from across the pond. we're just learning that prince william and kate middleton are expecting. this is news from clarence house. they will be having their first baby. nbc news is working further to confirm this but the rest of the royal family has said to be excited by this news. she was admitted to the hospital this afternoon because of morning sickness. she's pebted to stay in the hospital for a few days. the panel can all agree -- >> republicans and d
they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some of his popularity and put out unpopular ideas for cuts. democrats don't have an incentive...
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four days ago we offer ad serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted deliberate strategy the slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code, cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has a spending problem. not a receive knew problem. the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe that he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own. a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president about such a plan. >> mr. speaker, you did speak with the president earlier this week. can you characterize that call? did he have any kind of counteroffer? also, we understand that he just is making clear that it is -- got to
four days ago we offer ad serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted deliberate strategy the slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code, cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would...
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and let's move on. >> real quick, who's the republican bill clinton in this case? >> who could argument? i don't know. who is that? maybe michael steele. >> you see where that got me. >> is there a senior statesman in the republican party who could go to the republican right and bring them over? is there one? >> reporter: tom coburn. >> kelly, go ahead. yeah. >> reporter: i would say tom coburn of oklahoma who has a lot of credibility on these conservative issues. bob corker of tennessee is a voice who has been trying to make a bigger imprint. and one of the things to factor into the unity you're seeing with the republican leadership which does feel different this time around is while boehner has been selected by his fellow republicans to be the leader of their conference as speaker, he must be elected in the new congress in january. so he's got something on the line here, too. there's a lot of confidence about the future of his speakership, but it isn't official yet. and so he's got to play this very carefully from just the perspective of holding on to the gavel.
and let's move on. >> real quick, who's the republican bill clinton in this case? >> who could argument? i don't know. who is that? maybe michael steele. >> you see where that got me. >> is there a senior statesman in the republican party who could go to the republican right and bring them over? is there one? >> reporter: tom coburn. >> kelly, go ahead. yeah. >> reporter: i would say tom coburn of oklahoma who has a lot of credibility on these...
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in 1986, came down closer to those clinton era tax rates, 39%. we have seen nothing but lower taxes over the last generation. if we have been enjoying low taxes, why are the jobs not being created right now. there's not no validity. we really, really looked into this. you don't generally speaking want to be raising taxes on people if you can avoid it. it costs you competitiveness. but the argument that somehow you're going to see this explosion in economic growth by not increasing those taxes by 3.6% doesn't seem to hold water. we're in a different economy now. there aren't really mathematical formulas you can use to apply to it. it all depends on growth rates and growth rates often depend on confidence in the economy. so there are a few variables here that you can't account for. >> ali velshi, thank you. >> my pleasure. >>> internet security guru john mcafee in hiding wanted for questioning in belize in the death of his neighbor. martin savidge got the first on-camera interview with mcafee since he went on the run. an interview almost as bizarre
in 1986, came down closer to those clinton era tax rates, 39%. we have seen nothing but lower taxes over the last generation. if we have been enjoying low taxes, why are the jobs not being created right now. there's not no validity. we really, really looked into this. you don't generally speaking want to be raising taxes on people if you can avoid it. it costs you competitiveness. but the argument that somehow you're going to see this explosion in economic growth by not increasing those taxes...
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we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you could raise -- at 4% a year over the next ten year, twice as much as you could from allowing the bush tax rates to lapse. why the income tax system is overburdened in the united states. we use it too much. we should be looking at other taxes. we can't do it in 29 days. why are we doing it in 29 days? >> but the president ran on raises taxes, right? if you look at the polls. 60% of people support raising taxes on people who make over $250,000 a year. how much of a problem is it, david, if the republicans you know, tom coburn said he does not want to raise that tax number. >> the pr
we need to go back to the clinton era rates for the most well off americans. it's not going to kill us. the line between freedom and tyranny is not the 35 we pay now and the 39 that the rich will pay as we did when america was a communist paradise. it's just silly now. you've got to be for a tax rate increase or we will go over this fiscal cliff. >> no, you don't. you could raise from a carbon tax of $20 a ton, which will deal with, we are having the biggest record carbon levels. you...
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senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly in the middle east, but there are no easy answers. this i think is what sort of calls out for an obama doctrine in a second term. he doesn't seem to have one at the moment which is a big issue. >> and doesn't have a foreign policy team yet. he's still wrestling with those decisions. more on that to come. david gregory, thank you very much. chris cizilla. coming up sunday on "meet the press," the fiscal cliff debate. the latest between house republican whip kevin mccarthy and assistant senate majority leader dick durbin, the two men who have been at the table. congress hearing from all sides on the fiscal
senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly...
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. >> meanwhile as nato prepares to deploy patriot missile defenses to turkey, hillary clinton warns syria against moving its chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we are would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and while washington buzzes over this video tribute to clinton, some are asking is it a farewell to the secretary or prelude to 2016? honoring the icons. politics meets hollywood. a tribute to the arts. president obama finds a way to salute an eclectic group of honor honorees. >> we've got my guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i couldn't think dave dances. there's no smooth transition from ballerina to led skep lin. they redefine the rock and roll lifestyle. we do not have video of this. there was some hotel rooms trashed and mayhem all around. so it's
. >> meanwhile as nato prepares to deploy patriot missile defenses to turkey, hillary clinton warns syria against moving its chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we are would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and...
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it was a compromise act signed by bill clinton. always seemed unconstitutional. even the justice department won't defend doma. so they can wrap it just on invalidating doma without answering the question of the validity of same-sex marriage. that's an easy way to do it. that's what supreme court decisions often will resolve cases by. look at the procedural issue. this is an answer the american people want. the supreme court recognizes that. they will make a ruling on it. this court will decide this. >> hang on, guys. a wisconsin dad is on the hook for $90,000 in back child support. he had nine kids with six different women. what the judge said he can't do anymore until he pays up. legal guys will weigh in on that as well. >>> and the looming fiscal cliff. the president says raising money on the wealthiest americans could raise a trillion dollars. from the best players in history to the number 1 club in the world. the potential of manchester united unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they'v
it was a compromise act signed by bill clinton. always seemed unconstitutional. even the justice department won't defend doma. so they can wrap it just on invalidating doma without answering the question of the validity of same-sex marriage. that's an easy way to do it. that's what supreme court decisions often will resolve cases by. look at the procedural issue. this is an answer the american people want. the supreme court recognizes that. they will make a ruling on it. this court will decide...
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there is a threat as secretary clinton said of u.s. military or action by other militaries in the region but what would they do about it? all of this stuff is mixed in with civilian populations. you can't strike from the air and, you know, kill a bunch of civilians. it becomes a very difficult problem. you can say red line but what do you do about it? >> to say red line, what does that mean? if we haven't been willing to do anything about the carnage that we have been witnessing for more than 18 months how could this change the formula? >> right. because there you are. if you had god forbid a chemical weapons attack you have three -- four countries. you have got several, lebanon, turkey, iraq, jordan to the south. >> israel. >> israel. all of these countries, if there's a chemical weapons dispersal in the air, it drifts across international borders. does anybody think the israelis will let that happen? you have a difficult problem. >> what if the opposition gets in control? >> the question right now, is this latest action directed from
there is a threat as secretary clinton said of u.s. military or action by other militaries in the region but what would they do about it? all of this stuff is mixed in with civilian populations. you can't strike from the air and, you know, kill a bunch of civilians. it becomes a very difficult problem. you can say red line but what do you do about it? >> to say red line, what does that mean? if we haven't been willing to do anything about the carnage that we have been witnessing for more...
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president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so the president seems to be moving the goal posts in a deliberate effort, i don't know, to extract something, to push people over the fiscal cliff. something's going on and it's not clear because he's n
president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given...
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the president's been very careful not to say we have to go up to the clinton-era 39.6%. he hasn't used that number. and so he's -- you know -- >> right now it's 35%. >> right now it's 35%. so if you look in the middle, okay, 37% is a real possibility. but here's the caveat. john boehner, the house speaker, cannot take a rate increase to his caucus unless it is accompanied by some signal of real entitlement cuts. something that they do now and give a down payment on for the future. i don't think you get -- could get rates through unless the president gave a little bit. and if you look at the document from the grand bargain back in july of 2011, the president was willing to give on that. so we'll have to see if they can get back to that. but again, has to be one significant item that they know they'll be able to build upon in the future. an item from both sides. >> neither side's going to be thrilled. but they've got to compromise. >> that's the way life usually works, doesn't it? >> certainly does. thank you. >>> meanwhile, huge announcement today on capitol hill. the con
the president's been very careful not to say we have to go up to the clinton-era 39.6%. he hasn't used that number. and so he's -- you know -- >> right now it's 35%. >> right now it's 35%. so if you look in the middle, okay, 37% is a real possibility. but here's the caveat. john boehner, the house speaker, cannot take a rate increase to his caucus unless it is accompanied by some signal of real entitlement cuts. something that they do now and give a down payment on for the future. i...
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secretary of state hillary clinton meeting today with the u.s. special envoy and russia's foreign minister. sources say the focus of the talks is formulating a plan on how to move forward with the crisis in syria. clinton noted growing concerns that the president may use chemical whelms eapons on his o people. >>> more than 330 people are dead in the philippines after a typhoon. >>> proof that we can sure light up the night sky. new video released by nasa. you can see the city lights from around the globe. it's so awesome. it took nine days for a satellite to capture these images. it needed 312 trips around the earth to take all of the approxima pictures. they were mapped over existing imagery of the earth to make this one impressive view. wow. >>> zynga, the game company that makes farmville wants to dabble in real money. online gambling. it filed an application for a gaming license in nevada. the only state that currently allows it. it could help zynga make up for lost revenue from other games. >>> it will take years for new jersey to recover f
secretary of state hillary clinton meeting today with the u.s. special envoy and russia's foreign minister. sources say the focus of the talks is formulating a plan on how to move forward with the crisis in syria. clinton noted growing concerns that the president may use chemical whelms eapons on his o people. >>> more than 330 people are dead in the philippines after a typhoon. >>> proof that we can sure light up the night sky. new video released by nasa. you can see the city...
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the hillary clinton for press pass. perhaps they could reissue these if she decides to run again in 2016. >> she was the favorite then, she lost out to a relative i unknown junior senator from illinois. we'll see what happens the next time around. >> if she runs. >> that shows you how unpredictable these things could be. even though she would be the favorite. you never know what might happen. >> i think if she writes a book, does a few speeches, enjoys herself a little bit, i think she will say i'd like to be the first woman president. >>> security is being tightened at the hospital where katherine is being treated for acute morning sickness after her privacy was invaded by a prank call from australia. i'm joined now by cnn's royal correspondent max foster. >> it's extraordinary. it's very simple. a couple radio presenters from australia, jokers on a comedy show, rang up the hospital, pretended to be the queen and prince charles and asked to be put through to the ward. just have a listen to the accents here, they're not
the hillary clinton for press pass. perhaps they could reissue these if she decides to run again in 2016. >> she was the favorite then, she lost out to a relative i unknown junior senator from illinois. we'll see what happens the next time around. >> if she runs. >> that shows you how unpredictable these things could be. even though she would be the favorite. you never know what might happen. >> i think if she writes a book, does a few speeches, enjoys herself a little...
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. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is leading a new u.s. diplomatic push on syria holding talks in dublin, ireland, today. let me begin with you. including this distressing nbc news report, what and how much do we know about al assad's movements at this point? >> reporter: there have been concerns for months. the u.s. reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on consequences. there's not concern that bashar al assad might iutilize them against his own people but if weapons are still there terrorists could get hands on weapons and utilize those chemical weapons. you have this nbc news report. also on monday important to remind our viewers, cnn reported that they had word from u.s. officials that in fact syria had begun mixing chemical weapons and that would be done to create sarin for weapons in the future. they say there was no sign that the syrian officials were going to do anything with those weapons any time soon. important to remem
. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is leading a new u.s. diplomatic push on syria holding talks in dublin, ireland, today. let me begin with you. including this distressing nbc news report, what and how much do we know about al assad's movements at this point? >> reporter: there have been concerns for months. the u.s. reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on...
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bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to nonmember observer state. of course, the word state there is the operative one for the palestinians. the palestinians now say they do, in fact, have a state which is a taertory that is defined as the west bank, gaza, and east jerusalem. so, therefore, the palestinians are saying that this obviously would make the implementation of this state all but impossible because they say it would be impossible for them to even reach their capital that they want to have, which is, of course, east jerusalem. this is certainly a measure that's cause aing lot of international controversy. you were saying that great britain a
bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to...
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hillary clinton, the secretary of state, she said the u.s. is prepared, in her words, to take action if the syrian regime, the syrian government of bashar al assad were to use chemical weapons or even move around chemical weapons stockpiles, many of which are near the jordanian border. >> a lot of which is near the jordanian border. we have been aware of this for a while. we're working very, very diligently to monitor that. this is a game changer. >> as far as jordan is concerned -- >> as far as the world is concerned. >> you saw that story in "the atlantic" magazine, they posted it on their website, that israel has asked jordan for permission to go in there and attack those chemical weapons sites in syria. >> i saw the report. i'm not aware of these contacts. but this affects all the countries of the region. it will be a game changer in the sense that the world will not stand still and watch these chemical and by logical weapons being used or the threat of them being used. it is going to be a game changer. so far, the lack of unanimity on ho
hillary clinton, the secretary of state, she said the u.s. is prepared, in her words, to take action if the syrian regime, the syrian government of bashar al assad were to use chemical weapons or even move around chemical weapons stockpiles, many of which are near the jordanian border. >> a lot of which is near the jordanian border. we have been aware of this for a while. we're working very, very diligently to monitor that. this is a game changer. >> as far as jordan is concerned --...
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they met when chad was just 19 and a press aide in the clinton white house. >> good morning, mr. president. >> reporter: he gave reiner the west wing tour when the director was scouting for his film, "an american president." they decided griffin would be the one to make that first uneasy call to olson. >> much to my surprise, it was an issue he had clearly thought a lot about. but the moment i hung up the phone, i realized that there was a chance i was talking to someone who overnight could become the most important, significant advocate for marriage equality that this movement has ever seen. >> we talked for a while on the telephone. and then he said, can i come and talk to you in your office in washington, d.c.? >> reporter: weren't you stunned? >> i wasn't so stunned. i'm a lawyer. i represent cases involving the constitution. this is an important constitutional question. >> one of the first things you see when you walk through your door in this office is a picture of ronald reagan. >> he was a wonderful man to know and to work for. and, of course, president bush too. >> repor
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you know the clintons, is there doubt or no doubt she's running for president? >> there's not in my mind much doubt. zero doubt in bill clinton's mind as to what he wants. he desperately wants her to do it. chris: you notice what he did in pennsylvania this time, knocked off people that opposed her in the past and helped people that have been with her. >> he is organizing his public life around keeping options open for her. hillary clinton would say, look, i'm exhausted, give me a year to get my life back in order to think about it but i think at every turn in hillary clinton's public life when she's had an option to do something more ambitious, she's chosen that option so to my mind there's not a lot of doubt. chris: let me ask you about the think we alle i agree she'll be encouraged to run. seems to me that other people like vice president biden and governor of new york, they have to get going and make their move. the secretary of state gets to relax, get her head clear, read a novel or two, think about something other than work. how long does she have? >> lin
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this hillary clinton nutcracker and bill clinton corkscrew set? and once they have had their fill of wine and nuts they can cook up plenty of manly meat on this barbecue grill is definitely killing two birds with one stone. finally your
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clinton will likely sign on to work with her husband at the clinton foundation for a while and could possibly write a book about her time as secretary of state. >>> speaking of political contenders, there could be a bruising and very entertaining battle just around the corner in new jersey. newark mayor cory booker says he will decide in the next two weeks whether he plans or not plans to challenge governor chris christie next year. >> i am absolutely considering running for governor as well as giving other options some consideration. >> if you decide not to run for governor, is there any chance you might run for another office, say senate, for example? >> yeah, i'm actually looking at that a lot as well and trying to give back because life ultimately is not about a position it's about a purpose. my purpose that i try to focus on every single day is how can i make a difference in the world around me and the community around me. i'm really thinking about both offices right now and which one can i better serve on the issues that i'm passionate about and the things i feel driven to cont
clinton will likely sign on to work with her husband at the clinton foundation for a while and could possibly write a book about her time as secretary of state. >>> speaking of political contenders, there could be a bruising and very entertaining battle just around the corner in new jersey. newark mayor cory booker says he will decide in the next two weeks whether he plans or not plans to challenge governor chris christie next year. >> i am absolutely considering running for...
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mayor clinton. >> mayor chelsey clinton. >> jennifer: you think hillary clinton would be interested in being mayor? >> no, as great as new york is, i think it would feel like a demotioning to from traveling the world as secretary of state to dining the fine restaurant of new york. i think they'll vote in quinn. >> jennifer: karl, let me follow up with you. there is a new york democrat nate shinigoa who lost his race, but he received a letter from hillary clinton, and he posted it on his facebook. and she's in fact in that letter encouraging him to keep on fighting in the political website, saying that is new for clinton. do you think she's building support for a presidential campaign? >> i don't think she's building support to go on a nice long vacation. >> jennifer: i totally agree. >> which is probably what she's going to do, take a break while her team puts everything together. it's smart politics congratulating, and offering condolences to anyone who lost. i think it's pretty normal. i think it's usual that a candidate would put it up for the world to see but i think it's a smart t
mayor clinton. >> mayor chelsey clinton. >> jennifer: you think hillary clinton would be interested in being mayor? >> no, as great as new york is, i think it would feel like a demotioning to from traveling the world as secretary of state to dining the fine restaurant of new york. i think they'll vote in quinn. >> jennifer: karl, let me follow up with you. there is a new york democrat nate shinigoa who lost his race, but he received a letter from hillary clinton, and he...